Hello~

Just adding my voice to this conversation.

It's so hard to keep things held without dropping them. Interacting with things with a high threshold setting feels terrible, and fully pulling the trigger while playing games is cumbersome. Lowering the Interact threshold "fixes" the issue for interacting, but then it's nearly impossible to hold things because you reduce the window where items are held; leading to me unable to pick things up or hold things at all.

Having the "Interact" button also Pose is a huge flaw. It means the "Interact_Threshold" must be larger than the "Grab_Threshold". Ideally the interact/grab threshold should be low (and the same value) for responsiveness, and Posing should be a deliberate action like a click of the trigger or grip buttons.

I want to cry T_T Not being able to interact with my surroundings is such a frustrating experience. Some game worlds just don't work for me.

Please Please Please help me. I'm genuinely struggling with this, and with the current settings I can't find a solution.

Thank You 💛

Angst!

If any Vive Wand users read this and have figured out a binding that works I would love to hear from you. Currently I have Interact set to a low threshold and "Grab" set to grip. This works well great for buttons and, I can still grab and pose physbones, but grip grabbing not ideal. Some game worlds and world items just do not work for me, and open_hand gesture grabbing things feels bad compared to the old ways.

Since it became impossible to Interact without fully pressing the trigger, I changed the threshold.

As a result, on my VIVE controller, I cannot even grab, let alone pose. Please bind Interact and PhysBone grabbing to the same action, rather than Interact and PhysBone posing, as it was before.

Please provide a means to revert to the previous input method.

I didn't realize how stressful it would be to be forced to change the method and speed of operation that I have been accustomed to for several years.

If there's concerns about expanding the list of SteamVR actions further, it could be merged with the Action & when bound, disable posing via .

Prior to these needless changes, I could pull the trigger until it clicked and then hold it to grab a physbone and move it, my own or another person's. Then, if the physbone was poseable, I could click the grip buttons to reales it in whatever pose I had left it it (locking it's pose). I could then click my trigger on the physbone to release it's pose.

Now, after this horrible update, (besides the myriad of broken bindings and atrocious movement) I can no longer do any of this. Physbones without poseable checked, I cannot interact with at all. And physbones with poseable checked simply get pushed around and the randomly lock themselves in place. On other's they don't even see it, so it's local. On myself, I have to reset avatar or release poses to get them to return to their original spot.

I have tried many different bindings settings and it does not change this behavior. Please revert this update entirely for VIVE wand users or spot me the cash to buy new controllers with finger tracking that I don't like or want. It wasn't broke, and didn't need a fix. Forgive my frustrations. Thank you.

Update: I have found that it is a very VERY specific spot on my trigger pull before it clicks to be able to grab physbones. It's so tiny that I couldn't even find it originally. Is there a way to change it back to being a click?

It's so jank and unintuitive indeed, the vrc team must not have a vive wands to test with when they were working on this update

Agreed, pls fix this. give an option to enable legacy input for vive wands.

It's better than absolutly not being able to pose the physbone, but yeah it's bad. You want to grab a bone ? No instead you just pose it instantly because you grabbed it too hard.

What a dumb implementation ! The grip button posing the bone was already perfect, no need to make it worse.