Finger Trails and Spring Joint Trails Broken since last beta update.
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- in VRChat open either the streaming camera or a personal mirror.
- enable finger trails or a spring joint with a trail on it.
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Dexvoid
Merged in a post:
[1546] Trail renderer remains broken when you view yourself in Camera (stream and photo) and in all mirrors.
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Trail renderer remains broken when you view yourself in Camera (stream and photo) and in all mirrors. Looks fine in FPV and from other's POV. Happens on some sling joint trails and on nearly ALL finger trails. Tested across dozens of worlds many dozens of avatars. This is currently an issue also in production, introduced about 4 or 5 builds ago. (Relevant production bug -> https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/finger-trails-and-spring-joint-trails-broken-since-last-beta-update )
Nidonocu
Been seeing this effect as well on some trails I have setup for dancing with.
Avatar ID: avtr_f89e1f41-d89f-4aa3-89e0-1be16e740c28
Turn on via: Expressions > Effects > Hand Trails
Example pictures show walking backwards in the same fashion.
Compare third-person own camera (has similar appearance in mirror reflections) to first-person view (also what other players see).
Dexvoid
Nidonocu Thank you for your report. Can you please check if this still triggering for you in 2024.4.1p2, build 1535?
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Dexvoid just tested in 1535 (open beta and it is present there also.)
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What additional information do you require? I'm happy to help, but feel I've given avatars to test with and step by step instructions to replicate it, along with video and images of it happening. It's currently an issue in PRODUCTION.
Dexvoid
П J П Λ Apologies, this was marked as Needs More Information waiting for a response to StormRel's post below asking if the issue was still occurring.
We've just released VRChat 2024.4.1p2, build 1535. Can you please check if the issue is still triggering for you in this release?
П J П Λ
Dexvoid Sorry, replied above to another of your comments. It is indeed still present in 1535.
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Dexvoid do you require more information on this? It remains broken in production.
П J П Λ
it's also present in 1546 on the open beta.
Dexvoid
П J П Λ This issue is marked as Needs More Information because we're waiting for Nidonocu's reply above.
We are aware of this issue and have not yet been able to reproduce it internally. The avatars you've linked us to all appear to work as expected in builds 1535 and 1546 during our repro attempts. Attempts at finding a repro are still ongoing. Thanks for your understanding.
П J П Λ
Dexvoid So to be clear, you are in the avatars I mentioned and looking in your personal mirror or in the stream camera and all the trails look fine. That's surreal. I've had dozens of people confirm they have the same issue by simply turning on their finger trails and looking in ANY mirror at themselves. I don't have a useful response I guess to this. I can provide any and all information about my setup if you need more information, or logs, or realtime data as it's happening. Please just ask and I will help. it's causing me a lot of hassle peforming on stream as it limits many features.
I literally have nearly 400 avatars, and I have not found a single one of them in the last 2 weeks since this has been going on that the finger trails DO work. They all exhibit the issue and are from dozens of different creators.
П J П Λ
this has returnedbin build 1534. You can see in the timage. The broken trails are only visible to ME in mirrors (and the stream camera). Not visible to others or to myself in first person.
StormRel
Is there any additional information regarding this issue? We have been unable to reproduce this bug.
Can you confirm it is still occurring?
StormRel
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Trailer Render broken in Vrchat Camera for all worlds.
Chiii
There was a bug where trail renderers was broken for the local user in some worlds but would still be perfectly normal in Vrchat Camera and mirrors. This bug seems to be the complete inverse of that. This seems to occure in all worlds and effects only Vrc cameras and mirrors.
Reproduction Steps
- Take out a Vrchat Camera or approach a mirror.
- Try to use an avatar trail renderer then observe in camera or mirror.
Hackebein
this is maybe a duplicate of https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta/p/1347-trail-renderers-break-in-some-worlds
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Chiii
I have experienced both these issues, this new issue appears to the pretty much the inverse of the other canny post and seems to occure in all worlds. The prior bug was that the trail renderer would bug out for the local user only but at the same time would appear perfectly normal within mirrors and the vrchat camera in random worlds here and there. Now it seems the issue is occuring only within the Vrc camera and mirrors but looks perfect fine to yourself and as far as I can tell this effects all worlds.
StormRel
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Can you please provide example avatar IDs?
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avtr_57342ea1-8c5d-4a32-b5f9-904a4ee70a53
avtr_1fc5bf19-82b0-4491-ac9c-4b117b93dee8
avtr_f43ce103-d6f2-4deb-9b25-0c278cf7ad46
are 3 of the ones I can recall off-hand that have the issue.
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