Allow more than 5 Management roles in Groups
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miner28_3
We can create up to 50 Group roles but only 5 of those can be management roles, and one of those is a Group Owner role, so in reality we can only have 4 Management roles.
This is not even nearly enough, considering the fact that the role becomes a "Management" role as soon as it has for example View All members during normal use you run out very quickly.
I believe the amount of Management roles should be increased to at least 10. This allows us to have 9 different management roles, so we can properly choose which permissions we want to give which role.
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JustJaime
As more features have rolled out for groups, worlds, and now there's a calendar, even more permissions now give a role "management" level access. I'm a part of Trans Academy (TRANS.7885) which has nearly 100 volunteers and our hierarchal structure means that certain roles need to have very specific permissions. When those permissions are locked behind a "Management" status, it makes it impossible for all roles to get the permissions they need. Ideally it should be 10, or more.
unexcept
The API code has been changed to no longer count the owner role, but further internal discussion needs to happen before anything more will happen.
So this remains tracked, but at least you technically get 1 extra role now!
miner28_3
unexcept Thank you! That is enough for my current use case
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Can you provide a few use-cases for needing more than 5 layers of moderation hierarchy?
Does this change with the recent inclusion of the Everyone Role, which should you want to, now allows you to set "View All Members" as a global default permission without incurring the management role limit?
miner28_3
unexcept It is of course better with the @everyone role, but
For my group, as an example, I would like to have the following
1 - Owner role
2 - Admin (Has all perms)
3 - Moderator (Has lots of moderation perms)
4 - Trusted (Has some instance moderation perms and Manage Invites for example)
5 - Ranked Host (Very similar to Trusted with just few things on top) eg. Has Manage Group Instances on top of what Trusted has
6 - Host (Has only Manage Instance perm)
So, for me personally, I'm only missing 2 management roles but I've seen some other people require ~8 or so, of course, another question is if these people could possibly deduplicate their roles because there's likely gonna be some overlap but in either case, it would likely give a lot more freedom if we had 10 (9) management roles limit.
Also, another possibility is to make Owner's role not count as management
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miner28_3 Thank you, that's very useful information, and that matches use cases I've seen in larger groups.
Switching the logic to exclude the owner role from the count would be doable, and I think a reasonably easy sell, but I'll ensure the ask to raise the cap to 10 is seriously considered.