Find an Age Verification Provider Not Linked to Palantir
Flufflestuff
Persona is in fact, linked to Palantir.
This is the same controversy discord is having currently with it's verification.
Persona is currently in several disputes regarding maintaining user data longer than it's privacy clause dictates due to said involvement with palantir.
Palantir is pushing for a surveillance state that puts minority groups at risk.
Palantir Is not something VRC should want to be associated with.
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Flufflestuff
Hey can ya'll stop harassing me on my bsky since I posted this btw lol. Some of ya'll been fucking psychotic.
Legit the bootlickers are actually calling me a paid influencer shill in DM's for chilloutvr/resonite like I actually have any relevant popularity outside of drawing weird shit lol.
Also the three people that threatened doxxing me got the wrong address despite me saying I live in the Twin Cities area of MN multiple times on my socials. It is amazing how bad they are at this.
ckochi
It's been almost a month without any official response to us.
I hope, really hope they still care about the community in this regard.
Any vendor isn't worth trusting imo, and Persona is probably the last option to take.
Deantwo
ckochi, they did post in one of the recent Dev Update threads, here: https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-19-february-2026/47849/34
peq42
we should move to another game, as vrchat devs apparently "trust" persona
Kitto Dev
This is a genuine privacy risk. I've been listening in on Persona for a while now, and the general consensus is that Persona is not to be trusted with your biometric data.
Kitto Dev
Age verification in general is a gamble and a bad idea; you really don't know what the company does with your information. At the end of the day, I wouldn't give your biometric data away, but that is your choice if you wanna risk that.
Kitto Dev
Unless there is a better way.
Kitto Dev
AI age verification*
DarkSwordsman
Discord issued a press release about how they are no longer working with Persona.
I hope VRChat staff reads the whole thing and understand that this is the type of thing we hope VRChat can also consider.
DarkSwordsman
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"Discord distances itself from Persona age verification after user backlash"
ElfMom
If payment info could verify age like steam does, I would gladly pay for vrc+
I don't want to give palantir my id
MorgansTails
This is absolutely necessary for the healthy survival of the platform
ElfMom
MorgansTails you're implying they care about "healthy" survival. Or that your definition is the same as theirs
peq42
vrchat better Fing change this
10den11
So I think many many folks have brought up good points about the morality of using Persona, its links, its data breaches, etc. I (maybe blindly) believe that VRChat is not receiving any of that personal data Persona may be holding but I do agree that continuing to use Persona is wrong morally....my argument here though won't be about that though but purely financially
There is a hope to continue the push for using 18+ instances for groups and services that participate in NSFW activities, especially your known biggest event each year in Furallity. I have already seen several individuals refuse to now Verify (aka buy a month of premium TOOO verify) because of the recent news, and I a sure I am not the only one that has witnessed that.
I totally understand the requirements you face with different nations and states pushing the ID verification, which is why we are not asking for removal. Switching providers though does show you will not stand with those ties that have been shown with Persona though the leaks, and on the flip side continuing to support them may in the long run implicate you as a participant of similar practices regardless of the validity of it.
I do not know what the contract looks like or if there is some break clause, but even a public message of "hey we are looking for a new provider for when our contract runs up" I think would go a long way in dissuading worries and such brewing in your userbase due to the worrying things that have sprouted from this 3rd party provider.
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