Focus more on handling the out of control community, and less on custom scripting.
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Squid
Don't get me wrong, I want custom scripting and all these new shiny fancy features as much as the next person. But it's waaaaay to soon. Especially with the sudden boom in users and trolls. I'd much rather see a large focus on new tools and fixes to your many broken tools to deal with trolls. I mean, maybe we wouldn't need to call in mods so much if the vote to kick worked more than 40% of the time. And if the notaficiation icon was different for vote to kicks so people stop declining them thinking it's a friend request. I can't even stand most of the events we usually run because of the trolling. Couldn't sit in last week's improv for more than 20 minutes before I had to leave from all the trolling. And right now the only solution to fix this is to make all events private and for inside members of the community only. Which really sends the community in the opposite direction it should really be moving. So this is more a request for you guys to focus on the necessary moderation features we need now, than the more quality of life features that we don't really "need" any time soon. We need a larger focus on user features than developer features.
TL;DR: Vrchat needs to prioritize revamping it's terrible tools for self moderation and polishing what they have before introducing new quality of life features that we don't always need (like custom scripting).
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Aev
As Joey explained, tools for self-moderation have come a long way since this post was made. There is always room for improvement, but I feel confident that self-moderation is something that the VRChat team takes very seriously. Closing this post.
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bob ashell
This is shitlib bullshit. When the only time something is good is when you get your own way, you're a spoiled brat. Part of living in society is dealing with everyone else's bullshit. Is it that the vote kick only works 40% of the time as intended? or the majority only agreed with you 40% of the time? Before you start throwing around the word "community", is it community or just you? You are hinting at being more inclusive, by saying "I need better tools to kick people I don't like." Private seems like a great tool to me.
The only progress we have made in current society is that we have taught the next generation how to throw a tantrum in complex dialog.
Squid
bob ashell: Hey man, this is from October. The tools have been improved 10x since that point. If you played back during September and October, those were legitimate problems the community was complaining about for the past month. Back then actually, there was no way for an owner of a world to kick a user from an instance, you still had to start a vote to kick. And even then that didn't usually stop them from getting back in, if it kicked them out at all. The issue for me at the time was I felt the focus of the VRChat team was in the incorrect spot. For a small team with a platform that at the time was just picking up pace, they were focused a tad too much on developer features, and not enough on features for the users. Developers won't develop for the platform if there are no users to develop for, and users won't stay if there is no content being developed. At the time the experience developing for VRC was about the same as it is now, albeit a bit improved since, but we've since seen a huge shift to features that cater to VRChat users, and not just it's developers. Prior to VRChat really growing, the community was very developer centric. And so focusing on on developer features a few months prior to my canny made sense. But at the time it was really bogging down the entire community and making VRChat a frustration to be in or host events in.
Raigho
Oh! There's should be an option to block avatar as well. I muted a troll and he started spqming an animation with extremly bright and fast colors, me ans me friends had to hide ours screen to protect ourselves from the epileptic show that took half the room.
Raigho
Muting is usefull but when there's a lot of avatars (in the Pug's for exemple) pointing the troll's avatar is difficult. I don't know if we can select they via social, didn't tried.
GPUP
I think we need to think about the long term effect this could have on the community itself. I think what we have is fine because once you start giving people more power there will be those who will be banned for what is normal and everyone will start having to language police and fear what they might say. I like the openness and freedom the chat provides and having a local blocking system and that it wouldn't be terrible if you want the community to survive long term. It starts off with people who should be banned but eventually it always turns on you and everyone starts gunning for everybody. Let people be weird and do what they want and if you don't like it remove them yourself with the tools given and not having to beg a constant watchdog.
Ashley Scott
Was going to say similar. Would much rather see more fixes rather than new features. As a developer myself, more features without fixing previous features can become a real headache!
Very cool concept for a game though, hope it goes far!
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Lewin
Streamers have good and bad effects, Bear in mind.
danly
There's definitely a bug in vote kick that needs fixing.
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