Folders for Uploaded Avatars
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anatawa12
We want some way to group my uploaded avatars list to make it easier to select avatar.
日本語要約は下にあります
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Current VRChat doesn't have any way to manage avatars except for avatar favorites.
Japanese have uploaded many avatars and will more when we follow official recommendation, one avatar should have one outfit.
According to my survey, over 33% of Japanese have more than 50 avatar variations.
We don't want to use avatar favorites and they are inadequate so we want some alternative for uploaded avatars.
As a one alternative, I request folders for Uploaded Avatars.
Why not avatar favorites?
There are two big reasons. First, we want to use avatar favorites for public avatars.
Even though we have uploaded many avatars, We want to use public avatars.
Currently, avatar favorite is the only way to keep public avatars so I want another.
The other is that number of avatar favorites is not enough for this usage.
We only have 6 avatar favorites. I want to group into more groups.
Why Japanese have many avatars?
In Japanese community, almost everyone have multiple outfits for multiple bodies, so we actually have many avatars.
I surveyed about this on Twitter for Japanese VRChatters.
The result says about 33.1% have more than 50 avatar variations.
Someone says they actually have uploaded over 500 avatars (they upload one avatar for one outfits),
and another says they have 1000 avatar variations in total (they upload one avatar for multiple outfits).
However, current VRChat doesn't have way to manage uploaded avatars.
So, we want some way to manage uploaded avatars.
The reason why many people have many outfits is that there are huge variety of outfits for avatar bodies and many people bought many of them.
In Japanese community, many outfits author make some or huge variation for many avatars, so It's easy for people to add, combine, and customize outfits to their avatars.
For example, in Capettiya and mumu, popular outfits and avatar stores, many outfits are made for about 40 avatars.
VRChat may think most one doesn't have such a number of avatars by server metrics.
However, there's a reason why the number have huge difference.
Many Japanese combines many outfits into one avatar violating official recommendation that one avatar should have one outfit.
Instead of uploading avatar by outfits, many Japanese uploads one avatar for one body, and they change outfits with expression menu.
That's one of the reasons why Japanese Avatars will always have many skinned meshes and PhysBones, and huge VRAM usage in their avatar.
There are multiple reasons why they do that but one of the biggest reason is that with many avatars, we cannot choose avatar easily from list if we do (or already).
(Previously, Not keeping the calibration settings is another biggest reason, but it's now fixed with IK 2.0)
Some Similar Canny
There is another Canny to improve problem with many avatars.
I strongly want folders for uploaded avatars but those canny can improve problems with many avatars.
Menu Design Suggestion
I made two image for design suggestion for Avatar Folders, one for Main Menu and the other for wing on MM/QM.
I hope this may help you to understand my image for this feature.
日本語要約
アップロード済みアバターの管理方法として、フォルダ機能を追加してほしいです。 多くのアバターを持っている人は、アバターを切り替えたい時、目的のアバターを探しづらいと思いますが、VRChat公式が推奨している「1アバター1衣装」を実践すると、更にアバターの数が増えてしまい、大変です。 そのため、アバターを管理しやすいようにフォルダ機能がほしいです。
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Please, just to signal boost, we sorely need folders, rearranging in the sdk, or separate unlimited own-upload favorites (like world favorites).
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xantoz・ザントス
I'd love some sort of search function for your own uploaded avatars.
アップロード済アバター用の検索機能があればいいと前々から思いました。
narazaka
> Avatar File and Memory Limit Changes
> Don’t pack many avatars worth of content into a single avatar
> “don’t put too much stuff on one avatar.”
It means that dozens of uploaded avatars we (Japanese) have will become hundreds of uploaded avatars, and the avatar selecting wing menu will be completely chaotic.
So, something that can manage uploaded avatars have to be implemented before the Avatar File and Memory Limit Changes.
This canny is becoming more and more important to us.
> アバターファイルとメモリ制限の変更
> 1つのアバターに多くのコンテンツを詰め込まないでください。
> "1つのアバターに多くの内容を詰め込まない"。
これはつまり、我々(日本人)が持っている数十のアバターが数百のアバターになり、アバターを選ぶウィングメニューが完全に混沌と化すことを意味します。
なので、アバターファイルとメモリ制限の変更の前に、アップロードされたアバターを管理できる何かを実装するべきです。
このCannyは、ますます重要になったと思います。
narazaka
And look at the most desirable (one outfit content per avatar) avatar user's menu!
I must choose the most suitable avatar for the situation from the chaotic menu that has 671 avatars.
This canny is my dream.
よぜ[4oZEF]
I think this is a good idea.
My main avatars, "Moe(萌)" and "Selestia(セレスティア)", each have about 40 outfit variations, and I have separate avatars for each outfit to save weight.
I have not experienced any problems when using these avatars on a regular basis. But if I want to use an avatar other than the two I mentioned above, and I can't think of a better way to put this, for example, if I want to find an avatar who has uploaded only one costume, it is not easy to find that one avatar in this sea of 264 avatars.
YTJVDCM
I think it needs avatar tagging feature apart from already existing tagging feature for avatar gating like existing world tagging feature, not a folder.
Because sometimes we need something like filtering by outfits in addition to filtering by avatars.
フォルダ分けではなく、既存のワールドタグ機能のようなタグ機能(Avatar gating用のタグではなく)が必要だと思います。
これは例えば、単にアバターでフォルダ分け以外に、衣装で絞り込みたいという場合も考えられるためです。
Sayamame
YTJVDCM
Avatar tag search is also good idea. It would also be well needed.
But I think there is one problem for it.
Since there are many users from many different countries on VRChat, users will want to use their own language for this purpose.
To organize well, the folder/tag names must of course be in that language. (As a Japanese, I would use Japanese.)
In that case, it is very difficult to type and search non-english language in game with tag search...(in-game keyboard is english only.)
YTJVDCM
Sayamame
That's true, but this problem also exists with world tags.
However, most world tags are written in English, even if the author is non-English language user.
And world tag is also able to search to click an attached tags in world description and this method can search with all languages.
So I think this is not a big problem.
Also, the problem of typing to non-English language is not only about this.
Maybe, if it's not already there, we need to make a new Canny post requesting to turn back the international keyboard feature.
Flir
Yes! This would be really handy! I have a number of OCs, and multiple avatars for each OC, so being able to easily select the identity and then choose the avatar, instead of scrolling through every avatar I've favorited (and reordering that list by selectively unfavorating and refavorating avatars) would be very helpful!
Scout - VRChat Head of Quality Assurance
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Sayamame
Scout - VRChat Head of Quality Assurance (Sorry for pinging!)
Hi! Are there any updates for this?
As the time for Reducing Avatar Download and Uncompressed Size Limit is approaching, I'm reminded of this canny.
narazaka
Scout - VRChat Head of Quality Assurance Hey! My avatar is now 777!
anatawa12
Twitter forbids viewing tweets without logging in, so a screenshot of the survey tweet is included here.
> #VRChat
> アップロードしてるアバターのバリエーションの総数を教えて下さい!
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> 一つにまとめてる複数の服は分けてカウントしてください
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> アクセサリの有無程度は一つにまとめて、服くらいのまとまりで教えて下さい!
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> VRChatへのアバター選択画面周りの機能提案の参考にさせていただきます