Make pens a universal feature
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Writing in VR is pretty great. You can whip up a diagram, communicate as a mute, or just draw your friends. It's so useful that people put pens in all kinds of random worlds and avatars... But wait, why should they need to do that? What if... we could just have pens _everywhere_?
Please add a way to summon a synced pen that is not bound to a specific world or avatar. Some thought will need to be put into controlling abuse - eg pen muting options, and ways to disable it on specific worlds where it would detract from the experience (eg some horror worlds maybe?)
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Nekotaku
Ofc they'll charge for it... it should be a core feature for everyone. sigh
Slone Fallion
This accessibility request has been added to the shop as a limited themed item. If you have V-Bucks, you can have a pen now. Until it's out of the shop.
MissingNO123
"This
accessibility request
is now a paid feature
that's available for a limited time
"Does this not seem like the exact opposite of the goal here?
For an "accessibility feature" this is making it inaccessible to even able-bodied individuals.
I fail to see the point of locking basic features behind a paywall.
It makes me wonder if they would have made the Camera a buyable item had it not already been in VRChat for years now.
Slone Fallion
MissingNO123 I don't disagree, which is why I worded it the way I did. Accessibility shouldn't be locked behind a paywall and FOMO. A themed version of it, fine. But release the basic version first, if that's the intent.
Julian Astrum
VRC+ item. Pen. There you go, i gave you something else for VRC+.
Elocin_Anagram
My only concern with this is that many malicious users will use this feature to draw and write some pretty vulgar things. If implemented, I would like to request a way to know who drew or wrote something with their pen in group instances. This way instance moderators have a way to take appropriate action.
Shaun
Well at least If they don't give us one we'll get one as soon as we get the props SDK haha
itsLyxie
6 years after, this post still is relevant.
hdorriker
The ability to save pen drawing info that accumulates in a world over the course of a session (far too large for world persistence) would make VR Chat the best 3D Markup Tool for things like (IRL) Architectural Visualization. Much more developed and refined than literally any other product that has ever been marketed at us for this purpose simply because VRChat already has the “VR” part figured out and substantially developed far beyond the gimmick phase that other VR markup tools are stuck in. Making Pens into a system feature instead of a third party prefab is the only way to make this a possibility since this would require sending data out of the World. It makes sense that VRChat might host that 3D pen info on a cloud and monetize access to the “Pen Data Persistence Service” similar to other things that are familiar to AEC industry such as Matterport, so that users can access and import the session pen data into BIM/Architecture software like Revit or as 3D elements into AutoCAD or other things. From experience, I can tell you that a hypothetical plugin for getting cloud-hosted VRC Pen Data into Autodesk Revit would be easy enough that the Revit/Dynamo/BIM community would likely just make a Revit plugin for it, provided that the World Session VRC Pen data from a cloud source were to be a real thing. But the option to save Session Pen Data like this for any use case (not just Architecture) could represent an entire new revenue-source for VRChat.
Ericbazinga
This is definitely worth revisiting now that Items are a thing
Sphyxia
2 years and still only on tracked? Make it a VRC+ feature if you must, but I would love to see this
AviYinglet
I'm an artist, IMO pens have needed to be a system-level feature for ages now. Relying on world or avatar authors to add pens isn't enough: some worlds have only one or two pens total (a pain if more than one person wants to draw), some pens have very limited stroke resolution/stroke counts ("oh, the earlier strokes from this drawing are gone"), and most of them don't reliably sync for people who join late.
That's to say nothing of the times I join a meetup in a world without pens at all -- it removes one of my main verbs, the thing I do while socializing (in and out of VR), and that makes it hard to justify visiting most worlds for more than a few minutes. Incorporating just a basic single-color world-writing pen as a standardized feature has the potential to solve all these issues.
(Bonuses attached to this, like flashy pen effects and persistent online storage for drawings, can also be nice value-adds for VRChat+, just saying.)
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