More robust Block system (Notify users if blocked user enters world)
Casuallynoted
The block system is a great way to protect yourself from a harassing user, but there's still one component that makes the system noticeably less effective- as of right now, a blocked user can enter the same world as you without your knowledge.
This can lead to some pretty awkward situations where people go "Why do you have this person blocked?" and VRChat drama comes back up. Here are three steps that I propose to fix this problem:
- Make it so that if a user creates an instance, that no one they've blocked can enter via someone else. This includes for Friends+ and Invite+ as well as Public.
- Make it so that if a user is in another user's instance and a user they've blocked is invited or joins, that they receive a popup notification letting them know that person has been invited to the world so they have ample time to leave if they so choose.
- Make it so that if a user requests an invite into another user's world, and someone they've blocked is present, that before that invite request goes out, they're made aware that a user they've blocked is present. (Even just a list of who's in the room for certain types of instances would be helpful here)
I think this would do a lot to cut down on unnecessary conflict, and still leaves the door open for two users to unblock if they feel the need to as they can do so via the social menu or by meeting in a mutual public/friends+/invite+ world after they've received that notification.
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Hachiko
Maybe being able to block for specific reasons such as "crash avatar" might be nice to work with as when they join you get a notification that they are there and that you can see who has them blocked for what reason.
Sorry if this is confusing im not that good at english
UnknownAK
I feel like this could be just as detrimental as it is helpful, many of my friends go on blocking sprees against anyone they "don't like the look of". Personally I think the current blocking system is perfectly adequate, if you feel the need to block someone then do so and be done with it. Whether they join the world or not after this should make no difference to you since you can't see them and they can't see you.
I just worry that people could be separated from their friends just because the host of a world has them blocked, that block could be for a valid reason or a totally invalid reason and it would make no difference either way and still restrict that person. If you don't like a person then that is your decision but I feel that restricting users just because of your opinion, is wrong.
Casuallynoted
UnknownAK: Some very valid points, one thing I would like to add in response however is that I know some users who do the same thing (blocking other people for trivial reasons). It could be argued that that’s not really the proper use of something like the block system, and that an implementation like this would discourage frivolous use.
I do also think that there are two sides to this- there are a lot of users who don’t really block people or have never had an issue with someone they’ve blocked. But then there are a lot of users who have. I know for me, I still have one user in particular that I blocked a year ago, and yet they manage to find out who I’m hanging out with and pop into the room to start something with me via people who don’t know what’s going on.
With that said, I know moderation is one of the furthest issues from having an obvious answer and I’m really grateful for your thoughts on this issue. It definitely has led to me rethinking elements of this proposal.
John Smith
We have personal friend list. In addition we also need personal black list. Person added to the black list will be blocked everytime and everywhere.
poplopo
I think on the other side of this, it would also be effective to notify a user when they get blocked or are currently being blocked by other people in the world (preferably with a count). The knowledge that they are missing out on interaction may generally act as a deterrent for disruptive behavior.
Casuallynoted
poplopo: I completely agree with this, this also helps prevent the "Why did they block me?" a week or so later.
Also if I'm correct, at the moment remote blocks (via the social menu) don't seem to be functioning, a total sidenote but those should definitely be fixed. XD
Milky's Place
Casuallynoted: Indeed, remote block doesn't work. I've experienced it many times with a particular person who is attracted to me, but the way that he approaches is incredibly uncomfortable and sometimes creepy. And i haven't been able to block him because of the that issue!
Pan Diman
poplopo: Yes, yes, yes, yes! YES!!!