Third-Person View

It'd be neat to have the option to offset the camera over to the left or right. With the camera behind the head it's possible to hide something or someone behind it.

Hello, here is my feedback on the third-person beta: F5 as the default toggle feels out of place, since it’s widely used for refresh/reload in browsers, Windows Explorer, and even some world content (e.g., ProTV). A different default key would avoid conflicts with some existing content. Desktop item holding: the usual scroll functionality is lost unless Alt is pressed. I suggest keeping scroll as-is, and using "ALT + SCROLL" to trigger third person. When the camera is adjusted, movement keys (WASD) should remain relative to the character, not force rotation toward a direction. Camera controls: holding down "Alt" while in third person using the mouse could serve as an alternate easy way for moving the camera (instead of the hard switch with Tab). + "SHIFT + ALT + SCROLL WHEEL" could handle vertical camera movement. + "ALT + MIDDLE MOUSE" could adjust view angles/shoulder perspective. I understand these bindings won’t suit everyone, but since interaction prompts are already included, they could help guide users through new alternative controls without confusion, better I say something than nothing I suppose.

The tab button is an extremely useful way for desktop users to navigate UI elements in the world. With Tab bound to free-look, it is impossible to interact with UI elements other than when the head is in the way. ( See also: https://feedback.vrchat.com/third-person-view/p/using-tab-to-navigate-ui-is-not-accurate-in-third-person ) There are some worlds where holding Tab brings up a world menu that fills the screen. This is useful UX in my opinion because the menu can be brought up from anywhere and automatically navigated easily due to the tab-ui-navigation feature. I agree with a suggestion from the discord to switch this to the middle mouse button because it synergizes well with the existing camera controls (move/zoom) and is consistent with the desktop controls for the picture camera.

This would prevent accidentally going into third person. It would make 3p compatible with existing worlds that use the scroll wheel input, essentially meaning less worlds will have to disable the feature with the world tag. And it would maintain the scroll wheel behaviour everyone is used to when manipulating pickups, mirror, etc.

I don't seem to find any way to adjust the Vertical or Horizontal of the Third-Person Camera. It would be nice if this can be adjusted in the Settings, mainly because it doesn't feel "right" from where it's anchored to right now. This is just a very particular request as a user who has played hundreds of games that uses Third-Person View. If it DOES exist, instructions need to be more clear.

Currently impossible to enable Third Person through a Gamepad binding on Steam Deck (using OLED model), so I must enable it through VRChat Settings instead. There should be though! Additionally, the instructions do not show for Gamepad regardless if a Controller is connected.

Allow udon to lock the distance/zoom of the camera via udon (0 being First Person) Allow udon to define a zoom clamp to allow a user to use third person camera, but without exceeding the world creator's desired perspective they design around. Provide an API for controlling the camera in a normalized value (0-1) that would also take into consideration any clamped range that may be enabled. Allow the third person camera to have a translation offset to allow for "over the shoulder" third person perspectives that many games have. Again allow udon to lock such configurations during runtime.

It displays fine in first person view, but entering third person view in any way flips the camera's UI.

Audio in the starter stage for third person seems to be based on avatar location and orientation. I'm sure this is a temporary idea, but I'd like to offer my suggestion that I think the best balanced way to implement this in the final version is to keep the audio sounding as it does from the avatar's head, but track the direction based on the camera. I was spinning the avatar around and it was quite silly hearing the audio change as if I was spinning, when my camera was not. I thought maybe attaching the audio listener to the camera position and orientation would make sense at first, but honestly I think that has a higher chance of breaking worlds and immersion if desktop uses can cheat the audio listener location by going into third person like that. I think binding the stereo balance to the camera rotation, while keeping the position locked to the avatar head, is going to result in the smoothest experience across all forms of movement in and out of third person.

Please add a LayerMask field in the VRCSceneDescriptor to set custom layers for 3p camera collision. This would be similar to the Interact Passthrough field, but it should be a new separate field. This would fix the following issues, which can be merged: https://feedback.vrchat.com/third-person-view/p/player-can-push-3p-camera-through-certain-walls https://feedback.vrchat.com/third-person-view/p/how-to-mark-walls-as-camera-can-pass-through-but-player-cant https://feedback.vrchat.com/third-person-view/p/third-person-camera-passes-through-colliders-on-non-standard-layers