Age Verification Feedback

Hey Team! Lately we are seeing more worlds add in "age checking" at the entrances of worlds (even with the option for AV only instances available). It would be very useful if world creators had access to call on AV through Udon to help groups run their lobbies a bit more smoothly and help provide them that extra level of security. Being able to access AV through Udon, lets world creators do some of the following as example: The option for groups to auto allow AV users into the world, while stopping non AV users at the door to manually check. You could provide AV users with an icon above their head. (With a toggle hopefully). Let AV users toggle on game modes that may be more targeted towards 18+ users. Restrict certain area's of a world. Restrict users from entering a world which main theme is adult/"NSFW"/ or not suitable for below -18. ( 'Age Gating' should cover this already, but at the moment you don't need to prove ID when making your VRChat account, so this would solidify it) Automated content adjustments for different age groups -18 & +18 instead of blocking younger users fully or non-verified, worlds could dynamically adjust gameplay, visuals & mechanics. Helpful in overall moderation tools for admins/groups. Enhanced trust for community worlds and create a more trustworthy environment. Improves the reputation of VRChat as a 'safer' social platform. I am sure there are many other examples/features that world creators can add that allows groups to run their lobbies more smoothly and safely, these were just a handful of ideas submitted by the community. Thanks!

It seems like that there is a heavy implication that age verification is only for instances only. I would like to see the option for group owners to additionally enforce age verification to join / retain membership for their group. Example scenario: I'm a group owner with five hundred members. At some point I would like to make my group require age verification in order for users to retain membership in the group. When requiring age verification, any member who has not verified their age on their VRChat account via Persona gets a notification stating that they have 7 days to verify, or else they will be automatically removed from the group.

I should not have to pay $10 just to verify my age. JUST MAKE IT FREE FOR CHRISTS SAKE.

Per the updated FAQ for the announcement of Age Verification, I would like to suggest a hard limit of at least 1 or at most 2 alts who are eligible for the same age verification. People may have alts for various reasons, some being that they may not want people who know their main VRC account name (especially if that name exists outside of VRC on other platforms) and may not want to engage with the more hardcore gated content (cough18+STUFFcough) for fear of other users maliciously looking them up and then harassing them on other platforms or even irl. I realize that may be an extreme example, but I can imagine I am not the only one who has their VRC name as their other socials and tries to keep it as professional as possible especially those that are creators. And while you could just say... "Well. Then just verify your alt account." ...and I could just do that, but what if in doing so I lock my main account off from my favorite worlds and or avatars should those world/avatar creators put their creations behind Age Verification gates. I apologize in advance if this was hard to follow, I'm not the best at articulating my words, so I hope this made some sense... I would just greatly appreciate being able to keep my main and an alt with the same amount of access and not feel like I have a baby gate in my way on one or the other despite being a fully grown adult. -_-

Please update the terms of service section 8.10 to include age and date of birth. We now have a working solution to age verification and whether instance owners agree or not, a persons age and date of birth should no longer be something a user is required to disclose. This should be included with the anti-doxing language that already includes name, address, and government id. Nobody should be allowed to require the disclosure of ANY personally identifiable information and should solely be relying on the in-game mechanism already provided by vrchat.

I live in Australia and don't have a passport or a drivers license. But what I do have, is a Photo ID card/Proof of Age ID card that exists and is recognized by the Australian Government. Can you PLEASE get Persona to add this form of ID to their age verification process for Australians.

VRChat has determined Persona can be trusted with a photo of your face and government ID. Persona is a VC-backed (arguably "tech bro") San Franciscan tech startup that's only existed since 2018. They operate out of a shared space behind a bar: https://maps.app.goo.gl/t5ebyhr9oTUhupMf9 Their privacy policy says (as I read it) that they explicitly have permission to take your personal information (selfie, photo of your government ID) and store it for years, and can and will send it to "vendors, agents...companies we've hired to provide customer service support..." and to "law enforcement [and] other government agencies." They say they'll use your personal information "to understand you and your preferences to enhance your experience and enjoyment" and for the purposes of "marketing, including to communicate with you about new services, offers, promotions, rewards, contests, upcoming events, and other information about our services and those of our selected partners..." and for "advertising, including display [sic] advertising to you..." Their privacy policy site also uses clickjacking to prevent you from copying the text of their privacy policy: https://withpersona.com/legal/privacy-policy These doesn't seem like the actions of a legitimate and trustworthy company, and there aren't enough guarantees that you won't be literally doxxing yourself. PII is extremely valuable and there's an entire industry of brokers that facilitate the sale and transfer of people's personal information--not to mention the risk of hacking, accidental disclosure, or a new and untrustworthy company being sloppy or reckless. These days AI can train off a photo of your face, and scams and identify fraud are extremely common. Personally, the only times I've had to provide a photo of myself holding an ID are for once-in-a-lifetime financial transactions. Never for a video game or social media. VRChat is willing to take the chance of making this de-facto-mandatory (i.e., the community normalizes it and it results in a greatly degraded experience if you don't comply)? The ask is a severe imposition and an invasion of privacy without adequate concern that the chosen data broker is trustworthy. Even the announcement incorrectly claimed your PII would be handled in accordance to the GDPR, but the company is actually based out of California, where regulations are far less strict, and fines far less burdensome.

The automated system Persona uses fails to identify any form of ID I provide. Despite using every form of ID that’s available to me and trying it under different lighting conditions I get the same result. This system seems to have no way of falling back on some other form of age verification. The extent of customer support I’ve gotten on this subject so far is being told to try again. Are there plans to provide alternative methods of age verification so that people don’t get unfairly excluded through no fault of their own?

I am mostly refusing to use my ID to verify on a platform known for the comfort of anonymity, which I am probably not alone with, however there is also a side of people greatly tolerant about it. However it already is frustrating being excluded from an audience despite being in the age range, purely because I refuse to hand over my identification, thus I would like to request to have the instances marked with the 18+ age verified tags be removed from the public search, to avoid the issue of being excluded from public places. I fully understand that the age verification is a great use for events and drinking environments, but I would keep it specifically for those occupations. Group Publics currently are already a hit or miss, depending on who moderates those instances, not only have I witnessed impulsive behavior from those who moderate them, but also people generally being russophobes, homophobes and general phobia against a certain group of individuals. tldr, Remove listings of instance with the 18+ age verified tag from public searches. Limit the 18+ age verified tag to event groups. I hope this is a fair compromise still, even if I decide to opt out of the verification, until it has another option to verify.

It would be nice to have instances or groups that require joining members to have a self-identified DOB over 18 years old on their account, but not require verification. In addition, add a button to report user as underaged if they self identify incorrectly. If found to be underage, then verification would be the only way for the account to regain 18+ status. This is more a kin to have verification has worked for social media and online games in the past. There are major privacy concerns with the chosen verification provider. Unverified instances/groups would allow easy side stepping of these issues. Personally, I don’t understand the need for verification. Why is verification legally needed given VRChat doesn’t not typically allow explicit adult content?